I am tired - just landed from a 12 hour, 20 minute flight from LAX to
Taiwan. I got a good laugh though today when our PDC was INOP, and the
F/O had to call to get the clearance. It was for sure the longest
clearance I've ever heard! Here it is...

KLAX.VTU4.RZS..MQO..AUDIA..COSTS..3500N/14000W..3500N/15000W..3500N/16000W..3600N/17000W..3700N/18000E..3700N/17000E..3500N/16000E..3200N/15000E..UKATA..BIXAK..DELTA..ONC..NHC.V91.MYC.R595 .APU.AU1A.RCTP

My poor F/O was writing as fast as he could!!!

Lynne

Lynne wrote:

> I am tired - just landed from a 12 hour, 20 minute flight from LAX to
> Taiwan. I got a good laugh though today when our PDC was INOP, and the
> F/O had to call to get the clearance. It was for sure the longest
> clearance I've ever heard! Here it is...
>
> KLAX.VTU4.RZS..MQO..AUDIA..COSTS..3500N/14000W..3500N/15000W..3500N/16000W..3600N/17000W..3700N/18000E..3700N/17000E..3500N/16000E..3200N/15000E..UKATA..BIXAK..DELTA..ONC..NHC.V91.MYC.R595 .APU.AU1A.RCTP
>
> My poor F/O was writing as fast as he could!!!
>
> Lynne
>

Wow. Is this a pain also to program in?

Matt

No actually it's fairly simple. We just program the DP, VORs,
intersections, and for the lat/longs, we can just type 35N140W for
3500N/14000W for example, and 35N150W for 3500N/15000W=AD, etc.=20

Lynne

On 2005-07-30, Lynne > wrote:
>
> F/O had to call to get the clearance. It was for sure the longest
> clearance I've ever heard! Here it is...

This is why I always put in the comments field, "NO SID/STAR/TRANSPACIFIC"
Sometimes clearance delivery will try to send you to Taiwan anyway,
but you've got to assert your PIC authority and negotiate a domestic
route.

;-)

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

Ah, yet ANOTHER way to call out Longitude and Latitude!! Don't you HATE
that it's not standardized. It's gonna cause an ACCIDENT!!!! Oh sure it
will be pilot error.

>KLAX.VTU4.RZS..MQO..AUDIA..COSTS..3500N/14000W..3500N/15000W..3500N/16000W..3600N/17000W..3700N/18000E..3700N/17000E..3500N/16000E..3200N/15000E..UKATA..BIXAK..DELTA..ONC..NHC.V91.MYC.R595 .APU.AU1A.RCTP
>
Withe several 3500Ns in sequence, that's obviously not a great circle
route. Was that route your choice, or is that some kind of airway you
had to follow?

vince norris

That particular route is a best wind route. That is defined as a
"random route."
Overall, that route is designed to give us the best time enroute. In
this direction, it is to keep us out of the wind as much as possible.
Going eastbound, the route will put us in the wind as much, for the
largest tailwind component possible.

Lynne

I remember hearing what I believed at the time was the longest
clearance ever.

.... but maybe that's because clearance delivery was given on the ground
frequency at this Class D airport, out of which an inexperiened foreign
pilot who filed a SID/airway route decided to call in just as I
finished run-up and was ready to taxi to the runway.

And.. I am betting your nav system has a full keypad, not a turn and
push arrangement like most GA panel mount GPS's

Dave

Lynne wrote:
> No actually it's fairly simple. We just program the DP, VORs,
> intersections, and for the lat/longs, we can just type 35N140W for
> 3500N/14000W for example, and 35N150W for 3500N/15000W*, etc.
>
> Lynne
>

Dave S wrote:
> And.. I am betting your nav system has a full keypad, not a turn and
> push arrangement like most GA panel mount GPS's
> Dave

on channel 9 on a UA flight as a passenger, I heard one pilot
(don't remember the aircraft type) say that he couldn't
edit the flight plan as the 'r' key on their FMS was stuck.
Damn, I really hate having to tune/ident/twist/set those
VOR's when the FMS goes tango-uniform in an Archer. <grin>

Gerald